Everyone needs a helping hand at some point in their life and at times we need much more help than is available. Psychiatry came about from the Freudian principals the last century but if we look at Freud’s life we will find a man not so happy or content with his own life. So an unhappy man came up with the principal of curing the brain of unhappiness through dialogue. Does this make any sense? The whole system of western psychology is based on his theory.
This was a man with a theory and not a self practice of experience going beyond the mind, intellect and emotions to be free of the senses and therefore to be developed on a higher level of awareness and comprehention. So now the western form of therapy was born where people just talk and think that through this dialogue all their troubles will come to pass.
The main issue with modern psychiatry is that it involves mainly talking, and talking is not action. It is merely a form of communication where we express our intentions but it may not necessarily follow with action.
The other main flaw in this method is that because it mainly involves talking it keeps a person on the level of intellect and emotion where an individual goes through different feelings thinking that something is changing. These feelings seem real and they are on these lower levels but they do not have any manner of setting a person free from their troubles because emotion is directly linked to the senses.
When one operates on the level of the sense and finds gratification physically and mentally, it is very hard to move beyond this point as we can easily become addicted to all we touch, taste, smell, hear and see.
The help you are seeking is within. If at times you need help seek it but don’t become addicted or dependent on the person, giving away your power.
Yogi Cameron
on Nov 25th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Kind Cameron,
Thank you very much for your love for everyone in the world. :p
I have a dream to meet someone wise like you in west. :p
Thank you for my pure energy and yours. :p
Thanks for The Chopra Center link :p so i just joined the newsletter. :p The benefits of meditation page is great, i love everything i learn about the center, thank u. :p Very useful :p
Thanks for the Pizza link :p The vegeterian ones will be perfect for travelling to LA this evening :p Will spend time with Lauren, the gorgeous young girl who just came back from Isarael from student exchange program. :p
Thanks for the Samurai link, love the philosophy :p
I could not agree with u more that ” we can easily become addicted to all we touch, taste, smell, hear and see.” and “The help you are seeking is within” Since it is the best source of power. :p
Happy thanksgiving :p, thanks for writing, cant wait for your new book :p Big hugs and love to u and your family. :p
I honor your wisdom, meditative crystal Bon :p
on Nov 25th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
No.
This issue has been one of my last battles.I won.I always win.:)
quoting you Yogi Cameron:
” The help you are seeking is within. If at times you need help seek it but don’t become addicted or dependent on the person, giving away your power. ” - Absolutely!
Sigmund Freud has been a major issue in my life in the past years.Just as your article,there has not been a single point i would differ from you in opinion,because in all my self discussions and thoughts on the topic,i concluded ditto the same for myself.
Yogi Cameron - your blog is my mouth sometimes.lol
What caused traumas in me was especially Freud’s theories on sexual desires and free associations of the mind.One very common one is the cigar.That he inserted in all our consciousness like poison into our minds,that the shape of things had sexual symbolics and desires in us.That all has to do with a phallus symbol or the female sexual organs.I mean we all are practically sick because of such nonsense.
On the spiritual plane things are totally different.And i think when we reach a certain spiritual level of awareness that we begin to become aware of all the existing crap and non-crap.
Besides,modern psychiatry will readily prescribe to you some drugs to make your mind numb and all this is self-destruction.Escaping your issues and battles will not lead you to awareness and keeps you on lower levels.
True inner strength is the stuff Gods and Goddesses are made of.We otherwise run behind and seek comfort,wisdom,strength in Gods and Goddesses and there is one in all of us.So why delay the process - why escape our battles and issues - it’s all passing,temporary - only serving the purpose of further learning,higher wisdom,inner strength and attaining higher levels.
One has to know the difference between ” empowering ” and all else that is not empowering.When we say ” this sucks and that sucks ” - it truely does suck the life force out of us,weakening our inner strength.Thus it is just the opposite of empowering.When people and things and situations are empowering to us - it is so because they give us higher energy and inner strength.It is encouraging in every way.
Knowing a few things helps us a long way.Personal power is inner strength.Leading a yogic lifestyle and treating oneself with nature for example ayurveda helps us to attain this inner strength and awakens the God and Goddess in us.
oooooh …..Yogi Cameron
lollipop…lollipop….oh lolli lollipop…. meow…
Thank you Sweet Angel Yogi Cameron.Freedom,Love,Peace
on Nov 25th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
:p From the 7th base center of my body, :p
Thanks Bright Cameron for University link, you are always thinking ahead :p i need to look up to you :p Thanks for opportunity for me to humble myself, empty, and clean my glass to learn ALL from you. :p
After i meditated lot days, nights and mornings. Yesterday, i saw a cute rabbit in backyard and i thought i’m so fortunate to have long life human print from my parents for meditation, to close my eyes, still my mind and give the best to my body and spirit. :p
I’m grateful to have the most calm and gentle friend like u to follow. :p
Thanks for leading my life and value my spirit, i’m convinced that the cat owner will buy died rat but not my after 7days died body. :p
I enjoy your happiness and your compassion that you put in your precious writing. :p
Thank you for your crystal mind to reflect positive energy to support me to be better person. :p
Thanks for letting me to be part of your safe comfortable homely blog. :p
Thanks for the company on my journey to Nirvana. I appreciate you, dearest Cameron…with Alerts :p
Sa-dhu :p bon :p
on Nov 25th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Thank you both for taking these writings and applying them to your lives. Without action we are all without purpose or cause. It is great to be living and learning with you all.
Namaste
on Nov 27th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
Yogi Cameron,
I am sad to learn that you give advice in such great matters without having a minimal knowledge about fields like psychotherapy, psychiatry or mental disorders. I have respect of you for your other posts that deal spirituality and health, but in this case and in the posts about depression it is necessary to not speak from what you may have learned here and there. I will return tomorrow because it is very late here, in my country, and I do hope for an open dialogue.
Regards,
Cristina
on Nov 28th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Hi again,
Shortly:
Psychiatry is a branch of medicine. It treats people through pills. It did not “came about from the Freudian principals”, because *it is not the same thing as psychoanalasys*-whichs is a trend in psychology (a different, yet connected, science from psychiatry) and a branch of psychotherapy!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoanalysis
Some psychiatrists choose to take psychotherapy courses too, but it is not necessary for a psychiatrist to be also a psychotherapist.
It may differ from country to country, but there are certain fields that give one the right of taking a psychotherapy degree, after graduating specific therapy courses-psychologists, doctors (among which are the psychiatrists), social workers…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotherapy
“Psychotherapy is an interpersonal, relational intervention used by trained psychotherapists to *aid clients in problems of living*. This usually includes increasing individual sense of well-being and reducing subjective discomforting experience. Psychotherapists employ a range of techniques based on experiential relationship building, dialogue, communication and *behavior change* and that are designed to improve the mental health of a client or patient, or to improve group relationships (such as in a family).”
on Nov 28th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Hi again,
Shortly:
Psychiatry is a branch of medicine. It treats people through pills. It did not “come about from the Freudian principals”, because *it is not the same thing as psychoanalasys*-whichs is a trend in psychology (a different, yet connected, science from psychiatry) and a branch of psychotherapy! http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoanalysis
Some psychiatrists choose to take psychotherapy courses too, but it is not necessary for a psychiatrist to be also a psychotherapist.
It may differ from country to country, but there are certain fields that give one the right of taking a psychotherapy degree, after graduating specific therapy courses-psychologists, doctors (among which are the psychiatrists), social workers…
http:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotherapy
“Psychotherapy is an interpersonal, relational intervention used by trained psychotherapists to *aid clients in problems of living*. This usually includes increasing individual sense of well-being and reducing subjective discomforting experience. Psychotherapists employ a range of techniques based on experiential relationship building, dialogue, communication and *behavior change* and that are designed to improve the mental health of a client or patient, or to improve group relationships (such as in a family).”
As one can see even from a short definition, psychotherapy does not involve simple, pointeless dialogue. You are having a dialogue with the readers of your blog too, right? Through your posts and their comments. Also, you have dialogues with the people you visit at home. Ofcourse, you both parts in these two cases have in mind a final, behavioural outcome from these dialogues which usually comes succesfull, or else they would be just a useless babbling. Psychotherapy is about the same point, of obtaining a positive change in the thoughts, feelings and *actions* of the client.
However, not even modern psychotherapy is based on Freud’s ideas. He has the great merits of opening a whole, fantastic field, but the schools of therapy evolved and were transformed, so that nowadays we have several trends, with specific assumptions and techniques. There are three big branches: the psychonalytic-dynamic therapies, the humanist-experientialist and the behavioral-cognitive therapies. Each branch includes various schools that work well each for certain types of issues. But even psychoanalysis itself was influenced by different Freud’s followers and divided into smaller trends.
About Freud himself, it is not fair, nor essential to recall his degree of happines through his life, in order to assess his merits. On one hand, his contribution was scientifical, he was not some spiritual leader to owe us a spotless life in order to gain our admiration. On the other hand, we are not in position to judge his choices of living; he may have had different priorities, not to mention that the “happiness” you are talking about means different things to different people. Perhaps he preffered the continuous, painful questoning and doubt, which is, frankly, my choice too. I’d rather feel subjectively miserable than be objectively a fool. Anyway, it is nobody’s bussiness to judge this kind of living. All that matters now is the insights he brought us, that allowed us to make a huge step. To talk about him the way you did, would mean the same as saying about a pedietrician “we cannot trust him, his child has been sick too!” or about an orthopaedist “how dares he to try to cure my fracture, since he fractured his own leg two years ago?!”
I will stop for now, time to go to bed again. I’ll wait for your answer, then continue our dialogue.
Good night!
Cristina
on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Thank you for this as it will give people a better understanding of the definitions as I may not have done. But it is still like differentiating between fog and mist-at the root of both is water as in the root of psychiatry and the rest is talk, analyzing and deduction.
My main point with this article is that words do not do much without action and as many people go to therapy to ‘talk,’ this needs to be followed by the action of ‘doing.’ Talking, analyzing and deduction is not action because no steps have been taken to heal- only to identify the issue itself. I think this is useful if a person talks for a moment then takes action-this ration should be more of a 10 to 90 ratio.
My other point was that talking continuously keeps a person on the intelectual/emotional levels, thinking things are real instead of moving onto higher levels of consciousness like the astral level to be aware of the spiritual self. This will only come about with practice and not talking. People who read my or anyone else’s writings will not benefit in the long run if they don’t take action as I will not grow or benefit if I do not do my practice each day.
Namaste
on Nov 29th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
Will you please let just one comment from the many repetitive recent ones (the last one, number 14) and erase those which appeared several times? Thank you.
In the end, it looks like all my trials were shown.
I will return later to answer further to your answer. How would you translate “namaste”?
Namaste!
on Dec 1st, 2008 at 10:00 am
Quoting Yogi Cameron’s comment :
#8 Yogi Cameron
on Nov 29th, 2008 at 11:27 am
Thank you for this as it will give people a better understanding of the definitions as I may not have done. But it is still like differentiating between fog and mist-at the root of both is water as in the root of psychiatry and the rest is talk, analyzing and deduction.
My main point with this article is that words do not do much without action and as many people go to therapy to ‘talk,’ this needs to be followed by the action of ‘doing.’ Talking, analyzing and deduction is not action because no steps have been taken to heal- only to identify the issue itself. I think this is useful if a person talks for a moment then takes action-this ration should be more of a 10 to 90 ratio.
My other point was that talking continuously keeps a person on the intelectual/emotional levels, thinking things are real instead of moving onto higher levels of consciousness like the astral level to be aware of the spiritual self. This will only come about with practice and not talking. People who read my or anyone else’s writings will not benefit in the long run if they don’t take action as I will not grow or benefit if I do not do my practice each day.
Namaste
~ x ~ x ~ x ~ x ~
Yogi Cameron this is exactly what i would say too!Precisely this.Having gone through life situations in which i did could not any longer take the advantage of therapy,because therapy you can best take in a place where you share the same mentality,as long as you have not risen to higher levels of awareness,in which case you will realize that you don’t need things like therapy.Then,therapy also needs understanding the way the patient thinks and feels and when having total different cultural backgrounds and ways of thinking,will at a crucial point leave one in pain,misery,grief,frustration because of not being understood by the therapist.Then the therapist, who i agree has book knowledge and practical knowledge,also in the first place has to have an insight into the patient and understand the patient,which is the key to the treatment of the patient.So therapy does not help in each and every case.There are places on this earth where people don’t know what is therapy and places where people cannot afford the ‘ luxury’ of a therapy.And psychiatry is a medical help for our biological,earthly bodies because on the earthly level some bodies are so called ‘ mentally ‘ ill for example they have mental disorders.On the spiritual plane,and astral plane,these are beings of darkness and demons.When the mind is light and lives in the consciousness of light,it grows towards light and it functions righteously.Archangel Zadkiel is the Archangel whose name means Righteousness of God and he helps heal memory and mental fuctioning.
On the spiritual level wisdom and knowledge is infinite and what we choose to believe and become enlightened in is our personal choice.
I have a certain prayer which i use when drunkards and a person who has a mental disorder approaches me on the street or is coming in my vicinity.This prayer is So strong and powerful that immediately the moment i begin saying the prayer,it clears the field around me and these people just start moving away from me as though someone is pushing them aside.To witness such an experience one would have to use this prayer themselves.With faith!
The prayer is :
Lord Michael before,Lord Michael behind
Lord Michael to the right,Lord Michael to the left
Lord Michael above,Lord Michael below
Lord Michael,Lord Michael everywhere I go
I am his love protecting here
I am his love protecting here
I am his love protecting here
I have grown up in the Moslem,Hindu,Christian and Buddhist Faith.And i don’t follow any particular religion.I use any prayer from all religions when i feel the need to use it.It’s all the same.Archangels are Archangels and they exist for all beings and animals.Before writing here,I always ask them for help.
And anyway,we choose waht we want to follow and believe.So if a person wants to follow the levels of therapy and psychiatry,then that is around what their lives pivot because that’s what fills thier mind.And if a person chooses to follow other paths,for example those of meditaion and yoga and spiritual paths and practices,then that is what their lives pivots around because that is what fills their minds.
However,we do have to live our lives in compatible ways with all beings,whatever path we choose to follow.
An actor may choose to follow a spiritual path of living his/her life,but may decide to accept a role as a psychiatrist or a mentally insane person.The actor may play the role to perfection and win an oscar for his/her role,but will still remain the same,no not the same,but will have gained a deeper insight and higher knowledge through realization,after playing the role.
Therefore,action is of vital importance.And it really is somewhat to the ration of 10 to 90.Talking should be round about 10 and action 90%.Otherwise we’re stuck!Without action there is nothing moving in us and in our lives.Therefore only talking does not solve any issue.Action does!90%ACTION - 10% talk.Then we are moving things inside us,our energy fileds change,our vibrations and frequencies change and things around us like our situation changes too!And then we realize we feel better and good again!And then we don’t need any therapy any longer.This is also how to get out of depression.The only way out is through action.However difficult it is.I’m speaking out of personal experience.I’ve been on my death bed several times and have pulled myself out of it and being on one’s death bed involves depression.But at the end,it is that what is in one’s mind which wins.And one can only get stronger by doing things.Therefore ACTION is the word,the grind,the do - the everything!
And because talking continuously keeps us only on the intellectual/emotional level,therefore we do have to take action to cross the border of words and enter a dimension of change - say from a 2D world to a 3D world.
Taking oneself into even higher levels of awareness requires daily practice on our spiritual paths.Then we are able to feel lightness.